Abel & Annie Hilbert

ABEL HILBERT son of Phillip and Lucy Hilbert was b: 28 Apr 1828 in Boxley, Kent, bapt: 25 May at St Mary the Virgin and  and d: 24 Sep 1890 in Kennington London aged 61 years. 

Uniform London Policeman 1860He mar: by Banns,  a bachelor of full age, on 10 May 1852 to ANN SMITH at St Mark, Old Street, Shoreditch, Middsex. Witnesses: - George Mills (brother-in-law) and Elizabeth Smith . Annie  was b: 1830 in Windsor, Berks, the daughter of GEORGE SMITH (occ. engine driver) and ELIZABETH YOUNG; Bapt: 04 Jul 1830, St John The Baptist, Windsor, Berks - she d: 03 Mar 1886 in Battersea, Surrey aged 55 yrs.

In 1841 Abel aged 12 years was with his parents High Street, Strood, Kent and in 24 Mar 1851, unmarried, aged 23 years, joined the Metropolitan Police (Shown as Police Trainee in Census a few days later), Warrant No 28616 on the recommendation of Mr. William Foreman and Mr. Stephen Taylor, both of Staplehurst, Kent. As a Police Trainee he lived at the Police Hostel, 41 Blandford Square, Christ Church, Marylebone, London,

On 12 Nov 1851 he resigned this position and  rejoined the Metropolitan Police on 9 Feb 1852 with reference to his previous recommendations, Warrant No 29973, joining G (Finsbury) Division. (1860 London Policeman in Uniform)

He was employed from 1852 until 1869 when he retired as a Police Constable in G Division (Finsbury) of Metropolitan Police living at George Street, Pancras, London,  in 1861 living at Air Street Hill, Pancras, London then from 1865 -1870 at 19 Kings Cross Road, Pancras, London.

20 Jul 1869 He resigned early with a pension of �35 per annum due to a bite on the hand by a stray dog sustained on duty and possibly causing neuralgia of the gums. This resignation was confirmed on 30th July 1869

DESCRIPTION (on retirement from police - age 41years) Height - 5ft 7.75in, Hair - Dark Brown, Eyes � Hazel, Complexion - Fresh; Marks, etc. Cut on side of mouth

14 Oct 1869 Started work as a porter at the Holborn Union Workhouse at a salary of �40 per annum plus board, lodging and washing, to be paid quarterly in arrears. On one month's notice

From 1869 until 1881 Abel was a Gatehouse Porter of Holborn Union Workhouse which provided the family with accommodation.

The following is a summary with the long headings containing the precise details to be recorded under each heading being summarised:- Place of Residence: 19 Kings Cross Road, Pancras; Age 39; Status Married; Dependent Children 4, resident at above address; Previous Occupation Police; Cause for leaving Resignation on Pension; Date left 23 Jul 1869; Holds office in any other Union? No; Whole Time Yes; Date elected 13 Oct 1869; Commenced duties 14 Oct 1869; Salary proposed �40 Rations/ Emoluments: Board, Lodging and Washing. One month's notice agreed to; Satisfied with testimonials; Cause of vacancy Resignation of James Potter; Signatures of Clerk to Union and Abel; Reported to Poor Law Board for approval - 14 Oct 1869

1871 census:

His children did not seem to like him being a porter at the workhouse. Various forms of employment were given on their marriage certificates, including �master of the workhouse� and "butcher" by Ernest.  In the Minutes January to September only for 1870, two references to Mr A. Hilbert, Porter, both for �10 salary, were found amongst salaries for Medical Officers, Chaplains, midwife, nurses and other porters. The dates were 23 Mar 1870 and 29 Jun 1870

From 1886 to 1890 Abel was a Cab Driver living at 113 Upper Kennington Lane, Kennington, London

 Notes for ANN SMITH: RESIDENCES 1830 - 1841; Engine House, Datchet Lane, New Windsor, Berks. Father an Engine Keeper; 1865 - 1871; 19 Kings Cross Road, Clerkenwell, London. Shown as Head of House, aged 40 years; 1881; Convict Prison, Carisbrooke, I.O.W., Hampshire, (Visiting with her eldest daughter whose husband was an officer) Her home address was almost certainly 18 Packenham Street, St. Pancras, London. Although Abel was still alive, she described herself as a widow, aged 50 years. and it is believed they had been separated for years and he had lived in at the Holborn Union Workhouse; 1886; 79 Mayrick Road, Battersea, Surrey

6 Mar 1886; Death recorded as a result of a Coroner's Certificate after an inquest. Died of Syncope from a weak heart. Post mortem recorded natural causes. Wife of Abel Hilbert, Cab Driver. Registrar: William GriffinChildren of ABEL HILBERT and ANN SMITH are:

i. SARAH ANN (ANNIE) HILBERT (b. 1853, Clerkenwell, Middx.; d: 1946 in Portsmouth, Hampshire) mar: 4 Jan 1874 in St Jude Parish Church, Grays Inn Rd, Pancras to THOMAS ROBERTS MESSAGE b: 1851, Warbleton, Sussex; (Father Henry Message - occ. carpenter  (1810-1891) his mother Sarah Roberts (1824-1908) occ; 1874 Policeman; 1881 Asst. Warder 1881 Convict Prison, Carisbrooke, Isle of Wight - Annie  shown as wife of Thomas Message, with 5 children, including a one month old son  born in Clerkenwell,  Middx., age  27 years - she d: 1928 Portsmouth, Hampshire) Their Children:  

1. SARAH ANN (ANNIE) HILBERT  mar:  by Banns 4 Jan 1874 in St Jude Parish Church, Grays Inn Rd, Pancras - her Father, a Booking Clerk; Witnesses: Abel Hilbert and Emily Speller,  to THOMAS ROBERTS MESSAGE (he was b; Abt. 1851 in Warbleton, Hurstmonceux, East Sussex - his father Henry Message (1810-1891) a carpenter and mother was Sarah Roberts (1824-1908) He  died 4 Feb 1939 in Portsmouth, Hampshire. Annie was born 1853 in Clerkenwell, Middx, daughter of ABEL HILBERT and ANN SMITH, and died: 1946 in Portsmouth, Hampshire age 90 years old.

Thomas occupations: 1874 Policeman Kings Cross Road, St.Pancras, London ; 1881 Assistant Prison Warder Convict Prison, Carisbrooke, Isle of Wight, Hants - Annie wife of Thomas Message, with 5 children, including a one month old son, born in Clerkenwell, Middx., and age 27 years.


i. ANNIE LOUISA MESSAGE, b. Abt. Dec 1874, Pancras; d. Abt. Jun 1958, Dartford.

ii. THOMAS EDWARD MESSAGE (b. Abt. 1876, Pancras; d. 04 Feb 1939, of St Mary's Hospital Portsmouth)  mar: 1899 AMY MABEL ROAST  in Portsmouth. She was born 1882, and died 23 Jun 1951 in Portdmouth 69 yrs old. Their daughter  VERA BEATRICE MESSAGE, b. 1907

iii. BEATRICE MAY MESSAGE, b. 22 Feb 1879, Pancras; d. 10 Mar 1975, Portdmouth 96 yrs old

iv. FLORENCE EVELYN MESSAGE (b. Abt. 1880, Lambeth Pancras; d. Abt. Jun 1963, Portsmouth; d: 83) mar. Abt. Sep 1909 to JOHN WILLIAM FARNS, Portsmouth.

v. ROBERT WILLIAM MESSAGE, b. abt Jun 1881, Clerkenville; d. Abt. Jun 1906, Portsmouth; m. //.

vi. GERTRUDE LILLY MESSAGE, b. Abt. Dec 1883, Isle of Wight; d. Abt. Jun 1917, Isle of Wight age 34 Yrs

vii. MYRTLE LOUISE MESSAGE, b. Abt. 1886, Isle of Wight; d. Abt. Dec 1956, Gosport aged 71 yrs; m. WILLIAM D BURGESS.

viii. ALBERT VICTOR MESSAGE, b. Abt. Dec 1887, Tavistock, Devon; d. 1888, Tavistock Devon

ii. ABEL HILBERT, b. 27 Jun 1855, George St, Pancras; Bapt: 29 Jul 1855, Pancras Old Church; d. 06 Sep 1883, Islington, London; mar. 1875 to EMILY CHARLOTTE* SPELLER a Spinster, aged 19 years (Father was Henry Speller, a Dealer in Building Materials and mother Caroline) at St Michaels, Islington .

Occ: 1871 - Newspaper Porter living at 19 Kings Cross Road, Pancras; 3 Oct 1875 - (unmarried, aged 15 yrs) until 1881 (married, aged 25 years) was a Porter in Post Office living at 1 Arthur Terrace, Caledonian Road, Islington

1875 - Abel mar: by Banns to EMILY CHARLOTTE* SPELLER at St. Michaels Church, Islington, a bachelor, aged 21 years. Father a Master at Holborn Union. Witnesses: - Henry and Jane Speller

1881 - living at 75 Southampton Street, Kings Cross, Clerkenwell in the same house as Henry and Caroline Speller Emily's parents; 13 Feb 1882 - Stationer and Tobacconist; 1883 - 10 Caledonian Road, Islington, Middx; d: aged 28 yrs

Will Transcript: This is the last Will and Testament of me, Abel Hilbert, of 75, Southampton Street, Pentonville, King's Cross in the County of Middlesex, Stationer and Tobacconist. I hereby give to my dear wife, Emily Hilbert, all moneys I now have or hereafter may have standing in my name in the Post Office Savings' Bank or any other bank, also goodwill and stock of the business now carried on by me and all my household goods, furniture, pictures, jewels etc in and about my said house and shop as above, or any other house I may hereafter remove to and also any money that may be due to me at my death from my said business or from the Foresters Benefit Society of which I am a member, for her own sole use and benefit free from debts and control of any husband she may hereafter have. And I appoint my dear wife Emily Hilbert sole Executrix of this my Will etc. Witnessed by William John Hooper of 33, Penton Street, Pentonville and Edwin Chas. Cox of 14, Spring Gardens, Charing Cross. (Estate valued at �169.11s.0d Admon:- 22nd September 1883)

Sep Q 1884 - After Abel's death Emily Hilbert remarried to James William Julier, by Banns, a Widow, aged 27 years - Father, Henry Speller, a Gentleman;  Witnesses - Charles Stevens and Amelia Miller . Emily d: Dec Q 1949 at Islington aged 83 yrs. James b: Sep Q 1857 Islington and d: Mar Q 1929 Pancras

iii. ELIZABETH FANNY HILBERT, b: 22 Feb 1857, Pancras Old Church; is not with her parents in the 1871 census, when she was 14 years old - possible that she was already training to be a servant; 1881  A  Professional Servant, unmarried aged 24 years to Mary Swaine, Head of house  St. Nicholas,  Guilford  Street

iv. LUCY LOUISA HILBERT, b. 16 Feb 1859, George St, Pancras; Bapt: 27 Apr 1859, Pancras Old Church. Lucy d: abt Mar. 1937  at Lumbeth aged 77 yrs.

She mar. by Banns, a Spinster, aged 21 years - Father shown as a Porter on 24 Aug 1879 to ROBERT GROVES occ: Brass Turner,  a Bachelor, age 21 yrs at Barnsbury, St Andrews, Islington. Robert b: b: 1857 in St Lukes, Middlesex  (his father was Richard Phillip Groves (1821-1911) an Instrument Maker and mother Mary Ann Surry) Robert d: Mar Q 1933 Islington. Their children:

a Robert Groves b: 1881 in Islington, Middlesex

b William E Groves b: Abt. Sep 1882 in Homerton, Middlesex

c Louisa May Groves b: 1885 in Lambeth, Surrey, England

d Eva Elsie Groves b: 1895 in Chelsea, Middlesex

e Ernest Wallace Groves b: 1898 in Bermondsey, Surrey

v. NATHAM WALTER HILBERT, b. 17 Jul 1861, Air Street Hill, Pancras; Bapt: 01 Sep 1861, Pancras Old Church;  Occ: 1881 Assistant Sorter in G.P.O. unmarried, aged 19 years d. Abt. 1899, Edmonton aged 37 yrs.

vi. CATHERINE HILBERT, b. 24 Jul 1863, Clark's Place, Pancras (Father shown as a Police Officer) Bapt: 27 Sep 1863, Pancras Old Church; d. 1864, Pancras Old Church.

George and Jenny Hilbertvii. GEORGE FREDERICK HILBERT, b. 02 Jun 1865, Grays Inn Lane, Pancras; 4th July 1865 Father, a Police Constable, registered birth at Grayston Lane, Pancras; d. 07 Dec 1932, Islington, London aged 67 yrs

George,  a bachelor, aged 22 yrs. (Father shown as a Cab driver) mar: by Banns 1887 to JANE AGNES (JENNY) ELLIS, daughter of JAMES ELLIS and AMELIA WINKLES at St. Mary's, Princes Road, Lambeth. Witnesses: George William Abrams and Lydia Albena Hilbert

 Jenny was b; 02 Feb 1866 in St Mary, Birmingham, Warwick; bapt: 9 Apr 1866 St Georges, Birmingham; (her parents James Richard Ellis  (1836-1917) occ: Engineer and mother Amelia Winkles (1839-1906). Jenny d: 28 Mar 1947 in Camberwell.

George Hilbert in 1865 - 1871 lived at 19 Kings Cross Road, Clerkenwell, London; in 1881 was an errand boy living at 18 Pakenham Street, St. Pancras, London; 1887 his occ: Stone Grinder, living at 2 Doris Place, Lambeth, Surrey; 1888 occ; Printers Labourer living at 18 Vauxhall Walk, Lambeth, Surrey; 1891 je was a Painter and decorator living at 12 Wilmington Place, Clerkenwell, London with his wife, Jane and daughters Jane  and Alma; Their marriage broke up (they did not divorce) In 1901 George was a House Decorator living at 58 Margaret Street, Clerkenwell, London; 1931 Carpenter; 1932 a Builder's Labourer living at 77a Highgate Hill, Islington, London.

George and Jenny Hilbert's children were: 

a. JANE AGNES AMELIA (MILLIE) HILBERT  (b; 29 Jan 1888 in Lambeth (registered as Jane Agnes, but was christened Jane Agnes Amelia and shown as such in the family bible. On her marriage certificate she was described as Agnes Amelia only) occ: Trained as a French Polisher and worked for Ayres later for Maples Furnishers; d: 14 Feb 1972 in Dulwich, London) She mar:  21 Oct 1906 to JOHN HENRY (HARRY) SMITH (OR CHILD)in Pancras, son of JOHN CHILD and ANNE ELIZABETH nee SMITH. (b: 23 Apr 1888 in Holborn, St Andrew, Eastern London, occ: 1908 to 1936 Policeman; In 1908 when he applied to become a policeman, he needed a birth certificate. He had always believed himself to be called Child (the name of his mother's husband) although he had been brought him up by his grandparents Smith. However, he then found that his real name was Smith. This was after his marriage and the birth of his first daughter, Lilian, so he changed both his name and that of his wife and child to Smith from Child and the next four children were all christened as Smith.  He was given his warrant No. 96254 on 2nd November 1908. He served in Army in Egypt and the Dardanelles during World War 1 and was a Staff Sergeant in the R.A.O.C. by Christmas 1918; Between 1936 - 1954 he was a Commissionaire at Mount Pleasant G.P.O. Headquarters on the personal staff of Postmaster General; d: 19 Apr 1954.

 OBITUARY FROM SOUTH LONDON OBSERVER - 28th October 1954: A Dulwich Hamlet fan for many years, Mr. John H. Smith used to visit the Champion Hill ground every Saturday afternoon.  He died suddenly at his home, 14, Dunstans Grove, East Dulwich aged 66 yrs where he had lived for 43 years.

During his WW1 service in the Army Ordnance Corps, Mr. Smith, who became a staff sergeant, was in Egypt and at the Dardanelles.

After demobilisation, he returned to East Dulwich and took up police work again. He was attached to the local station for 26 years in all and then took up employment with the G.P.O.. He was one of the P.O. workers who received a Coronation medal.

For nearly 18 years, he was on the personel staff of the Postmaster General being one of the two men in red coats and top hats who stand at the door of the PMO's office. At the funeral, the Post Office was represented by Joseph Partner who was the second of the two doormen.

An athlete in his younger days, Mr. Smith played football and cricket and boxed for the police. He was buried on Friday in the family grave at Camberwell New Cemetery

Children of JANE HILBERT and JOHN CHILD) are:

i. LILIAN AMELIA SMITH (b. 1908; d. 1998)

ii. ETHEL GERTRUDE ALMA SMITH (b. 1909; d. 1946)

iii. HAROLD LESLIE SMITH (b. 1911; d. 1987)

iv. JOHN ERIC SMITH (b. 1920; d. 1988)


b. ALMA VICTORIA HILBERT was (b: 03 Jan 1895 in Clerkenwell, Middx; er Father shown as a Painter's Labourer; she d: 20 Mar 1936 in Islington, London; Bur: Finchley Cemetery, Grave No. 22671L aged 41 yrs)

She mar: 29 Sep 1930 to ARTHUR ERNEST PACKE in St Peters, Dulwish, London, son of HENRY PACKE and MARTHA WILKINSON. He was b; 1886 in Islington, London; occ: 1901 General Iron Worker; 1914 - 1920 Shown in War Office Service Medals and Award Rolls Index for WW1 as a Private in the Royal Irish Rifles - Reg. No. G / 21278; 1930's Chef on Railways; d: Abt. 1950. ALMA HILBERT and ARTHUR PACKE daughter wass:

i. ALMA BERYL* PACKE, b. Elizabeth Garrett Anderson Hospital, London. Raised by her grandmother and Aunt Daisy, she lived with both of them until their deaths. Her mother died very young and her father worked on the railways and rarely came home.  

c DAISY EVELYN (b; 22 Aug 1901; occ: worked with Jewellery and Tortoiseshell making Hair  Brushes, etc. d: 21 Jan 1995) Sometime in the 20th C her father left home and a house in Dunstans Grove, where he lived, was purchased for her and her mother, by her brother-in-law, John Henry Smith.  She raised Beryl Packe, her niece, after the early death of her sister and they lived together until her death.  George and Gertrude Hilbert

d GEORGE FREDERICK HILBERT (b: 6 Sep 1904 in Clerkenwell, London; occ: Territorial Army; Apprentice Chef / Cook; 1925 Trainee Policeman; 1926 - 1956 Police Constable - Warrent No.115226;  1956 - 1970 K.L.M. Airline, Customs Warehouse; 1956 - 1970 K.L.M. Airline, Customs Warehouse; d: 17 Jan 1993 in Ashford, Middx.)  

He a bachelor, aged 27years, a police constable. Father, a carpenter; mar:  by Banns 19 Sep 1931 GERTRUDE LEWIS in SS Peter and Paul, Harlington, Middx, daughter of ARTHUR LEWIS and GERTRUDE WIGGINS. Witnesses:- George and Patricia Hilbert (Brother and Sister-in-law.) Gertrude was b: 25 Apr 1910 in Jubbulpur, India, and d: 18 Jul 1984 in Isleworth, Middx.

DESCRIPTION GEORGE FREDERICK HILBERT(from Police documents) 1925 Height - 5ft 9ins, Complexion � Fresh, Eyes - Brown? (They were grey) Hair � Brown, Marks/Scars - Nil Their children: are:

i. JEAN GERTRUDE HILBERT, b.  Harmondsworth, Middx; m. 11 Sep 1976 to  widower JOHN ROWLAND DAVIES, Hounslow Register Office; b. 16 Jun 1920; d. 02 Jun 1994, Middlesbrough.

ii. GEORGE FREDERICK HILBERT, b. Harlington, Middx. mar Patricia May Green b: Twickenham, Middx - they  m: at St Dunstans, Cranford, Keen genealogista, they made their Hilbert research available to NZ family.

Their children are Elaine Patricia mar: to Lawrence Michael Hufford Simmons and brother Keith George Hilbert

viii. LYDIA ALBENIA HILBERT (b. 27 Aug 1867, Grays Inn Lane, Pancras; Bapt: 29 Dec 1867, St Pancras, Middlesex; d. 23 May 1903, London. Bur St Pancras Cem. Finchley in her 36th year.)

She mar: 25 Dec 1895 by Banns, a Spinster, age 28 years (her father shown as deceased Constable) to HARRY WALLACE ELLIS at St Phillips, Clerkenwell.  Witnesses: Ernest Hilbert, Sergt 2 / E.L.R. and Jane Agnes Hilbert

Harry was b: 07 Mar 1864 in Birmingham, Warwickshire;  Bapt: 09 Apr 1966, St Georges, Birmingham son of JAMES RICHARD ELLIS occ: Engineer  (1836-1917) and AMELIA WINKLES(1839-1906) (Harry's sister Jane Ellis mar;  his wifes brother Geo Frederick Hilbert) Harry occ: labourer - caretaker. In 1901 shown as aged 37 years, married and born Aston, Warwick, but living in 144 St John Street Road, Clerkenwell, St Marks, (Central Finsbury Borough), with wife and 2 children

Their 2 daughters: LILLIAN AMELIA ELLIS, b. Abt. 1897 and GERTRUDE ELAINE ELLIS, b. Abt. 1899. 

After Lydia's death 1903, Harry Ellis remarried in Jun 1906 to widow MARGARET CHAPMAN at Hackney, Middlesex.

Margaret's first mar: in 1886 at St Anne Poole's Park, Islington, Middlesexwas to John Brown, Bachelor, Aged 26, Carpenter To Margaret Chapman, Spinster, Aged 21. Fathers; William Brown Deceased And Harry Chapman, Miller In Presence Of William Muller and Vashte Chapman. They had 7 children - John H Brown 1888;  Mary V Brown 1890; William Brown 1892;  Frank L Brown 1896;  Margaret Brown 1900; Sidney Victor Brown 1901; Ellen E Brown 1904

Harry and Margaret's daughter MABEL CLARA ELLIS was b: 1908  Stoke Newington, London

ix ERNEST EDWARD HILBERT  was b: 20 Feb 1870 in Grays Inn Lane, Pancras (birth registeed only as "Ernest"; 1871 at 19 Kings Cross Road, Clerkenwell, London; 1881 at 18 Pakenham Street, St. Pancras, London. He d: 06 Oct 1939 in Preston Lancs. where he was bur Oct 10. 

1887 Enlisted in Army, made a Corporal in 1890 and rose to the rank of Quartermaster Sergeant; 1894 With 2nd Batt. East Lancs Regt, Gibraltar before retiring in 1912 when he was a  Hotel and Restaurant Employee. In 1914 was recalled to army as Lieutenant, and rose via Captain to Brevet Major and 1919 he retired from the Army for 2nd time

He mar: (1) 22 Jan 1894 by Banns in the King's Chapel, Gibraltar, a bachelor aged 25 years and 3 months. At his wedding to Ann Cross, Ernest gave his father Abel Hilbert's occ: as a butcher, which he never was and his father was not recorded as deceased - his uncle Frederick Britt Hilbert was a pork butcher, so he may have been raised by this uncle, being the youngest in the family.  Witnesses: J. Harding and ANN CROSS in Gibralter. She was born Abt. 1873 to father John Cross, a blacksmith. Children of Ernest Edward and his *1st Wife Ann Hilbert nee Cross:

1 Ernest Alexander Hilbert (b: 1895 in Gibralter;  1939-1942 Leading Aircraftsman R.A.F.; d: 1956 in Chapel-En-Le-Frith, Lancs aged 61 yrs) mar: 1920 in Preston, Lancs to Catherine Dickson Stitt (b: 29 Jun 1896 in Ashton, Lancs; d: 26 Oct 1977 in High Peak, Derby) 1939-1942 Leading aircraftsman RAF. Their children;

a. James Edward S Hilbert (b: 11 May 1921 in Asthton-Under-Lyne, Lancs d: 1987 in Tameside) mar: (1) 24 Mar 1942 in New Tredegar Parish Church, Monmouth, Wales to Celia Margaret Smith (b: 17 Sep 1920 - her father Henry Smih occ: packer; occ: 1942 WAAF; d: Jun 2001 in Glamorgan)

Their son Michael E S Hilbert  

*2nd Wife of James Edward S Hilbert: mar; abt 1956 (no mar: record found) to Bridget Ann Twomey nee Rickards (b: 7 Feb 1919; her 1st mar: was to Kenneth C Rickards;  she d: 30 Jan 1998 in Cardiff, Wales) Children are

(1) Barry James Hilbert mar (1)Lorraine A Beddoes - 2 sons Ian Barry and John Barry;

Barry James Hilbert mar (2) Margaret R Williams - children are Carys Sian and David Llewellyn  James

(2) Vivien Mary Hilbert mar Graham Davies

(3) Desmond J Hilbert (1952-1952)

 *3rd Wife of James Edward S Hilbert: m: 1980 in High Peak, Derby to Jean R Ingram  

b. Trevor Alexander Hilbert (b: 24 Jul 1930 in Chapel-En-Le-Frith, Lancs d: May 1991 in Stockport, Lancs) m: 1956 in Chapel-En-Le-Frith to Edith E Tunnicliff 

Their family: Kevin A and sister Sylvia C Hilbert 

2 Annie L V Hilbert b: 1897 in Thayetmyo

3 Dorothy May L Hilbert b: 1899 in Ranikhet

4 Alice Emily Hilbert b: 1901 in Jullunder m: 1920 in Preston, Lancs to William Chirnside (went to USA)

5 Gertrude May Hilbert b: 1902 in Jullunder  m: 1925 in Preston, Lancs to Frederick Eccles

6 George Frederick Hilbert (b: 23 Jun 1904 in Dublin, Ireland; occ: omnibus conductor; d: 1970 in Chapel-En-Le-Frith, Lancs) mar: 28 May 1930 in Weslyan Meth Chapel, Fairfield, Lancs to Miriam Ellen Bradley (b: 19 Dec 1903 in Leominster d: 1986 in Stockport, Cheshire)

Their 2 Children:

a. Edith Hilbert mar: Geoffrey D Parks;

b Raymond G Hilbert mar: Heather T Carson

Their family: (a)  Neil mar: Allison Edge with daus Leah Kate and Georg Alice Hilbert;

b. Karen Hilbert mar: Jason W Brunt)

7 Elizabeth Eve Hilbert b: 1906 in Preston Cemetery, Lancs occ; nurse in Italy and then went to USA

Widower Ernest Edward Hilbert (2nd mar:) on 27 Oct 1910 by banns at St James church, Preston to  ROSALIND (Rose) GARLAND, daughter of FREDERICK GARLAND occ; fellmonger, and ELLEN PINDARD. Witnesses; Ernest Garland and Mary Ross. Rosalind was b: 29 Mar 1890 in Preton Lancs, occ: weaver; prior to her mar. was Nanny to the children of Ernest and Ann; she was a widow when she d: 6 Apr 1955, bur: in Preston Cemetery, Lancs aged 65 years.  

1914 Rose purchased Grave No JJ 375 CE in Preston Cemetery for the burial of her son, Nathan Philip. 1939 Her husband was interred with their son in this grave.

Will Transcript: Letters of Administration applied for on 6 Apr. 1955 and granted on 22 Jun.1955 in London. In the High Court of Justice, The Principal Probate Registry.

BE IT KNOWN that ROSALIND HILBERT otherwise ROSE HILBERT of 439, Leyland Road, Penwortham, near Preston, Lancashire died there on the 6th day of April 1955, intestate, a widow AND BE IT FURTHER KNOWN that at the date hereunto written Letters of Administration of all the estate which by law devolves to and vests in the personal representative of the said intestate were granted by the High Court of Justice at the Principal Probate Registry thereof to FLORENCE WAREING of 27 Brookfield Drive, Fulwood, Preston wife of John Wareing and KENNETH HILBERT of 439 Leyland Road, Penwortham, aforesaid laboratory assistant, the lawful children and two persons entitled to share in the estate of the said intestate. Dated the 22nd day of June 1955. Children of ERNEST HILBERT and ROSALIND GARLAND are:

i. EDWARD A HILBERT, b. 1911, Preston; d. 1911, Preston.

ii. FLORENCE M HILBERT, b. Aug 1912, Preston; m. 1932 to JOHN WARING,  Preston, Lancs. Went to Canada

iii. FREDERICK S HILBERT, b. Abt. Dec 1913, Preston; d. Abt. Jun 1914, Preston.

iv. ALBERT EDWARD (EDDIE) HILBERT, (b. Apr 1915, Preston; d. 1955, Sheffield, Yorks) mar: 1940 to Lily Pearson (b: 12 Dec 1910; d: May 1996 Sheffield, Yorks) Their family are:

a. Edward L Hilbert mar: Irene  Edley with 2 sons Andrew Shane and Nicholas Edward Hilbert

b. David Phillip Hilbert mar: Singapore to  Sew (Judy) Hong Quek - their sons are Anthony Phillip and David Phillip Hilbert

c. (Anita) Jane Hilbert mar David Hibbs

d: Janis Elaine Hilbert mar: Graham P Garnham

v. NATHAM PHILLIP* HILBERT, b. Jul 1919, Preston Lancs; occ: 1940 Driver in the R.A.S.C.; d. 11 Sep 1940, Chester. Died aged 21years, killed in an accident whilst acting as an outrider to a military cavalcade. Army Number 139305. He was buried 14 Sep 1940 in Preston (New Hall Lane) Cemetery, Lancashire - Grave 375 - Sec.J.J. Church of England

vi. KENNETH HILBERT b: 8 Oct 1929 in Preston Lancs; occ; motor salesman; Mar: Preston, Lancs to Marian Cronan. their family:  (they div: 1973)

a Christine H Hilbert b: 09 Aug 1954 in Amounderness, Lancs Mar: Bournemouth to Michael Terry
Family are Laura and  Richard Terry
b Martyn P Hilbert b: Amounderness, Lancs; Mar: Preston to Helen Gillian* Sharples (her father Kenneth S Sharples)
Their family: Andrew Kenneth; Victoria Louise and Phillip Martyn Hilbert
*2nd Wife of  Kenneth Hilbert: mar: 2 Apr 1983 Preston Lancs to Marian Lewty (b: 03 Oct 1953; d: 09 Jan 2003 in Walton-le-Dale, Lancashire)

x. ALICE EMILY HILBERT, (b. 1873, Pancras) Mar: 22 Sep 1895 by Banns, a Spinster, age 22 years. Father, a deceased Police Constable to GEORGE DRAKE ( occ: Coachman) at St Phillip Clerkenwell; a bachelor, aged 22 years. His father, John Drake, a deceased Carpenter; Witnesses:- Charles Walker and Charlotte Polley

1881 Census: Shown as aged 7 years. She was in the care of her brothers and sisters because her father was at Holborn Union Workhouse and her mother on the Isle of Wight with her eldest sister.

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